Pepe & Ángela Aguilar’s Hollywood Bowl remarks spark a bigger convo on “legal vs. illegal,” ICE in LA/DC, anti-intellectualism, Indigenous history, slavery/reparations—and yes, Superman as the original immigrant. Raw, funny, and honest Latino talk.
What you’ll hear:
Context on Pepe & Ángela Aguilar’s comments and why words matter
ICE on the ground in LA/DC, policing stories, and policy implications
Empathy vs. machismo, anti-intellectualism, and how schools sanitize history
Columbus, Taíno/Indigenous identity, slavery, and reparations
Why “rage-bait” wins—and how not to amplify it
Pop culture detour: Superman as refugee, Blue Beetle, Mr. Terrific, and the Pattinson Batman debate
Chapters (approx.)
00:00 Cold open
00:30 Pepe Aguilar @ Hollywood Bowl — setup
05:00 “Do it legally” controversy & reactions
08:45 ICE in LA/DC; policing dynamics
11:30 Empathy, machismo & anti-intellectualism
20:30 Indigenous history: Taíno vs. “Aztec” shorthand
26:00 Columbus, slavery, and sanitized textbooks
33:00 Reparations & misinformation
35:45 Don’t feed the rage-bait machine
41:00 Politics as pro-wrestling
49:00 Superman as immigrant; Blue Beetle & Mr. Terrific
52:30 The Batman (Pattinson) debate
54:30 Wrap + how to support
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0:23 What's going on in the internet right now? What is going on the internet? What do you want to talk about? 0:30 Yo, what's up with Pepe, bro? Like, I don't think that like this dude's getting heat, bro. 0:35 He's getting heat. Yes, that's right. Uhhuh. No, he he had a little bit of a controversy. 0:41 No, all even his daughter, bro. Yeah, they they they had a they had a concert at the at the Hollywood Bowl. 0:47 Uhhuh. Um, we can get into the pricing for those tickets cuz they went down to all 0:53 the way to like a dollar. No, you know what? that that's not the important part. 0:58 No, I think that's that's important context, but that's not the important part. And the important part is the words that 1:04 were said at this concert. Uhhuh. Was it was it the same concert? It was a three-day concert if I'm not 1:10 mistak like a two-day or a three-day concert. Tell them what happened exactly what happened. Okay. So, there was a concert at the Hollywood Bowling Pepe and 1:19 so what ended up happening was Pepe Gilad in in at this concert made a 1:25 statement. Mhm. Um and he said practically like you know 1:36 so he made a comment about how we have to do things legally legally. You know all that stuff and so it was a 1:43 little bit weird. It was weird phrasing. Yeah. Yeah. We know what he meant. We know we know where he stands. That's 1:49 what it is. Here's the thing. I can't say that I know where he stands. We know. I can't say that. 1:55 I know we can't say that per se, but like Well, here's the thing. He said it first. Pepe said said the the statement 2:03 first. Let me let me pull it up so that I can read so that we have proper proper 2:10 context. All right. Yo, and for context, yo, Pepa was like this like iconic singer like but he only 2:17 had like one hit, bro. And it's not like he had crazy amount of hits. No, he had he had he had a couple of a couple of 2:22 hits, but well, he's right. And I think Yeah, but he he got famous out of one song that was not even his. I 2:28 I think we all loved. Is that what it was? Yeah. 2:36 Is that what it is? Yeah. That was a bang. He did a great job. His iteration. 2:42 Oh, that was was that's what it was. that you know 2:50 [Music] and that nigga's a giant. He's like Paul Bunny and Mexican. 3:00 He's the biggest Mexican ever recorded. What do you mean he's the biggest? 3:06 Like he's the tallest Mexican ever. No. Yes, he is. No is tall as shit. But he 3:12 looks like a Theo. He does look like He looks like he's always looked like a Theo. He always did look like a Theo. 3:19 And then our parents grew up with Antonio Aguilad, his dad. Antonio Aguilar. Yeah, 3:24 that sounds familiar. I mean, sounds familiar. It's Antonio Aguiler. He's like the the icon. Oh, he's the one that did all those 3:30 movies, right? Yeah. He's the one that did all the movies. So that's his father. That's his dad. No, 3:36 I didn't know. I just thought they had the similar last name. That's why he got famous. He was 3:43 is like because they're nipple babies. They're nipple babies. Then there's nothing wrong with being a nipple baby, but they're nipple babies. 3:50 We acknowledge that. Yeah. Yeah. Right. They uh it's it's Antonio Florest, the icons of, you know, of 3:58 Mexico. Wait, wait. Filvest. Is that the lady from there? The lady from Chawo, right? 4:08 No. [Laughter] 4:13 This is Florinda. [Laughter] 4:27 That sounds familiar. Yeah. Yeah. But but you know, black, you know, black and white movies. I 4:33 Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah. So that's that's that's what that's what that So it's a family. The 4:38 thing about the Aguiler is that they have family. They have roots in Mexico. They have uh you know they have icons 4:44 essentially. Yeah. But they're out of touch with society. I think so. I think the the way that 4:50 they said things so like let's let's get back to what Pepe said specifically. All right. He is at this concert that he's 4:56 putting on and then he tells them, "Let's do things legally so there are no fucking excuses so we can truly be part 5:04 of this wonderful country that was built on laws and will remain strong because of that." 5:09 Now, like you know, bruh, 5:15 it's but to say that in LA and one LA is 5:20 being ran through. Mhm. Right. And on top of that, there's Mexicans there that is like the fifth 5:27 generation that was Mexico first, you know, like to say something like we're going to do things legally here. Like 5:32 that that LA is so iconic because there's a lot of still Mexican culture 5:38 and also the Mexican a lot of Chico culture and and culture of Mexicans that that were there before there was any 5:46 United States of America. I don't want to hear anything about legal or illegal. You know why? Yeah. 5:51 Because you have people, you have immigrants in this country going to their immigration court appointments. 5:57 All right? And then then they're being detained by ICE at these court appointments. You want to talk about these people 6:02 doing things legally? They've been doing it legally and ICE is there to kidnap them. So I don't want to hear this stuff 6:08 about, oh, we got to do things legal. No, no, no, no, no. We've been doing it legally. All right? And the thing is, 6:14 they still continue and this this this rhetoric about how we got to do things 6:23 is doing things illegally. They're kidnapping us. Yeah, 6:30 I hate that. I hate that. Anybody else could walk around with a camera, I mean, with a 6:36 mask on and kidnap anybody. 6:41 No, but they're hiring at 18 years old now. What? And they're and they're And guess what? 6:47 If you if you sign up for ICE now, they're forgiving student debt. 6:53 [Laughter] You're giving Dominican men a bad rap. 7:02 N we we take we taking an L right now, bro. Cuz you want to add another L to that? 7:09 There was a I don't know if you saw there was a cop like he's Latino from from I think he's from Florida. 7:16 Okay. They were like ICE was trying to recruit him and he came out like 7:22 because I know I speak both languages. I'm a police officer. He's like a sheriff. He was like I cannot become an 7:29 ICE officer because 7:34 you have to have your principles and your values. You know what I'm saying? And my sister I was talking to my 7:39 sister. My sister's a police officer in Washington DC and she's telling me bro that they are there ICE. They put ice 7:46 with the police officers, right? And she's telling me that when a they see a 7:51 Latino in a car, that's when they start swarming the car. Like, did you check his ID? Did you do this? Do you do that? 7:57 Like, and there's also Latinos working within the ICE thing. You see what I'm 8:02 saying? And then they try to talk to my sister, I befriend him, my sister's like ignores the shit out of them. And which 8:09 sucks because she's like, I'm like, I'm Latina. I don't fuck with this whole ice shit. But then like these people are 8:15 have to work with us. You see what I'm saying? Is is it's all dumb. 8:21 It's all dumb. This is all dumb. Everything that's going on right now in the country, what's happening in LA, what's happening 8:26 in DC, dumb. There's no reason for it. What what you think it why you think that's happening? 8:32 Why it's happening? Because you know what? You got somebody like Steven Miller in the administration that has it out against immigrants, that 8:38 has it out against Latinos, anybody who looks brown. They have it out against us right now. There's an allout war going on against 8:44 Latinos and we're trying not to pay attention to it. That's part of the problem. 8:50 I I was talking to a friend of mine and uh he's doing a lot in LA like you know he's going out and he's like yo but he 8:58 he's saying is they see more Latinas involved than Latino men. What do you mean? So he's like he's out 9:04 and about like but like uh like letting people know where I is at like trying to 9:10 get people off the street so like that they wouldn't get captured like the shit that's happening cuz I feel like it's more uh what they're trying to do is 9:17 like create more chaos, right? It's more like an act more than anything, 9:23 right? And he's like he doesn't see a lot of Latino men standing up for immigrants. a 9:29 lot of Latino man is like doing something about it, but a lot more women are like organizing 9:34 out there protesting. We see a lot more women doing that. 9:40 Yeah, that sounds about right. Why why why aren't more Latino men? 9:45 I think it's um I can't say for sure, but I think it's it's it's a culture of 9:50 machismo. It's a culture of racism. It's a culture of, you know, we think that we belong. 9:56 We think that this country caters to us. when it doesn't. But also, here's the thing, and I don't want to generalize, but I think there's 10:02 also the the empathy. Empathy is a type of all right, let me understand my fellow human being. 10:08 And I think, and again, I don't want to generalize, but I'm going to just put my sense out there that I think Latinos 10:14 have more empathy than Latino men do. Because in in the 10:19 context right now of what's happening in the world, uh Elon Musk put out a statement saying that empathy is is a 10:28 type of weakness. Empathy is the dead like detrimental to western society or 10:33 something like that. What? But a lot of people view empathy as a weakness. And if there's anything that Latino men, 10:40 they don't want to be seen as weak, you know? And I think like that's part 10:45 of an issue where we lack empathy. Do you think that we're just going back 10:51 and I feel like like re like how you deprogressing? 10:57 Is that even a word? We're regressing. Regressing. Yeah. That's what it feels like. Like we're regressing. We're going back. like 11:03 there's a lot of progress happening and we feel like a lot of the things like you know there was a time we talk about 11:08 like yes empathy and and therapy and all this extra stuff right but I feel like 11:14 there's there and we were talking about Afro Latin indigenous Latinos right 11:19 there was a lot of that conversation but I feel like there's a regress happening I remember I did a video and I was like 11:26 yo I'm Afro Latino right and I'm like right me and my sister did that and me 11:32 and my that got so much backlash and it was from my own people backlash 11:39 saying that I'm calling myself Aphro Latino, she's calling herself Afro Latina and we got so many people that 11:46 were offended by it like the term Afro Latino this woke thing. These guys are woke and what what and I I was just 11:54 surprised of how many people were talking about wokeness. I'm like I didn't think it was just a woke thing. I just thinking like you see what I'm 12:00 saying? It's I think part of it is also like 12:06 like we are still in um a transitional phase where you know 12:13 I don't know about you but for me like my you know my parents didn't go to school like they kind of hustled day to 12:19 make a living to that was their focus we have a benefit of you know getting 12:24 educated reading up on things studying um and I think that has helped us to be 12:30 better that has helped us progress. Mhm. And I think like not everybody is on 12:35 that level. And I think like you know again this doesn't make us better than anybody else 12:40 but but it doesn't make us better than anybody else. But I think at the same time it makes us so that it's like um we view 12:48 the world with a little bit more empathy because we know the struggles that happen in the everyday life. Not just our struggles, but the struggles that 12:55 people face, that women face, that um people of color face, that immigrants 13:00 face. Like we kind of get the understanding about the systemic world, the systemic racism and uh 13:06 transgressions that happen in our society. Do you think that is it really empath? Yeah, I think empathy has a lot to do 13:11 with it, but I feel like there's a there's like uh um 13:18 people are like when it comes to data and facts, people are going super against it. Like there's a resistance to 13:25 like data. There's a res right now where what we're seeing is 13:32 a a resistance against anti-intellectualism. M like 13:38 like you went to school, you graduated from high school, I'll still cook your ass. 13:44 You know, it's that George Lopez joke. Um and I think and I and I think part of it 13:50 is that we uh we're viewing being educated as like a bad thing. 13:56 As a bad thing. Yeah. And and and that never used to be the case, but there is right now a surge 14:02 in anti-intellectualism. Where the fuck does that coming from? I think people just want to, you know, people don't want to be looked down 14:07 upon. People also want their thoughts and feelings to be validated across the 14:13 board. And I think that's why you're seeing such a, you know, um, whenever you try 14:18 to argue with somebody who's against vaccines, they're like, I read I'm read no book, I read that 14:24 the Facebook warriors. It's just it's just right now like nobody wants to be 14:30 seen as lesser than or not having enough knowledge. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 14:35 Right. And again, this is also it's also policy, right? Like we're we're defunding, you know, the the Department 14:42 of Education, right? Yeah. Like they want to get rid of it entirely. Yeah. Because the people in power don't want 14:48 you educated. They don't want you to know things. Which is sad, man. Cuz I'm not going to lie, like for me, if I was properly 14:56 educated, but I went to public school and I think one of the things like that I regret is not going into like physics 15:03 and learning science like and if I could go back in time, I wish I could go, but I'm like there's also a restrictions 15:10 when you go through a public school that, you know, they don't have all that resources that they could teach all these things to all these kids, you 15:16 know, but I could imagine all the I was talking to a friend of mine and she was like, "How do you know all these things?" I mean, I had to learn it on my 15:22 own, right? I had I had to go and pick up a book and read these things because 15:27 I wanted to learn a lot of these things about how the universe works and shit like that, right? And and I could 15:34 imagine there's a lot of people I went to, she was like, they didn't teach this in in our school. How the hell do you know this, right? And I'm like, she's 15:42 she's right. And I could imagine like what if like these kids that are privileged and they go into these fancy 15:48 ass schools and they they have more money like they are learning these things. They're learning a lot. They're 15:54 learning about like how the world works or the universe. They're taking physics and calculus at a very early age. Right? 16:01 I I went you know how many times I took algebra? I took the same algebra every fucking grade. I was like 16:07 right. But me being a grown man a grown ass man now, I'm 38 years old and I'm like, "Okay, how come I'm learning about how 16:14 how time works now?" You see what I'm saying? Yeah. No, I I I think like I think for 16:21 me growing up in I grew up in LA and you know, I always remember how much time we 16:28 spent reading like the Canterbury tales, right? or knights and uh castles and 16:36 empires that happen across the Atlantic. You would learn about British history. 16:41 You would learn about England more than you would about, you know, indigenous 16:46 people, about your own home. About your own home, Latinos. I always remember in seventh grade, like we had we had spent like two years at 16:54 this point, you know, studying about, you know, all these um the about the 17:00 world, right? empires that happened. It was a Prince Henry that got his he 17:05 got decapitated. You you would you would read Shakespeare and you would read this and that and 17:10 then I always remember that I had like one of the assignments was like pick a country that you want like and and teach 17:17 a a lesson on it and I had a you know I picked Aztec at the time you know I was like I Aztecs I 17:24 guess like we don't know much about them so I'm gonna I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna do a lesson on Aztec culture. 17:29 Yeah. Yeah. Right. And this is seventh grade. And you know, I was proud of my project. I was proud of my presentation 17:35 talking about the Aztecs. It's not until years later that I thought, why didn't the teachers actually teach that lesson? 17:42 Why didn't teachers teach us about indigenous culture about people who live in LA? Why didn't we teach learn about 17:48 any of the indigenous tribes that were in Mexico, that were in Tervador, that were throughout the Americas? Like why 17:54 is it that we learn so much about what's happening in Europe and not about what's happening here at home? 18:01 Especially being a descendants of of Mexico and Aztecs and you know I mean a matter of fact Aztec is not really a 18:06 word like it's not it's not Aztec is not even real. Aztec is real but it's it's a lot more 18:13 complex. I and again seventh grade you're like aexic as no but Aztec is 18:18 like we adopted that term Aztec everywhere and these people were not even named Aztecs they didn't even refer 18:24 themselves as Aztecs no there's tribes there's peoples they're tribes so so and and the term 18:30 Aztec came as an is an American thing is an American term we're like yo these but 18:36 they're mikas there's a rich tapestry of different pe indigenous people 18:41 that's another one that's what it is Because it's like because it's not just Mexico equals Aztec. It's not that. 18:47 No, it's there there's, you know, the the pichas, right? Like it's just there there's there's there's so much 18:53 Yeah. so many different cultures that we neglected to learn about. 18:58 And that's why we just kind of simplify them likeas. Akas. Yeah. Because a term a came from 19:04 like these people were from Alan, right? You know, it was like I I think 19:10 uh who was it that came up with the term Aztec? I forgot, but it was like an American. I don't know if it was like a 19:16 sociologist type American, right? But they wanted to differentiate the Mexicas 19:22 uh from Mexico. Mhm. And okay, you know what? Let's call them Aztecs. 19:28 That's what the whole term. And then we just adopted that shit Aztec. We got Aztec stadiums 19:35 and and the Mikas are like, "Who the fuck is Aztec? 19:42 That's right. Yeah. I mean, but but but I think it kind of goes to show like you know you 19:49 know why again we learned about Europe. We learned about empires in Japan and 19:55 all this and that. But we didn't even learn we didn't learn about get what about themes? What about the 20:01 Mayans? What about you know what about all these other indigenous tribes that lived here? 20:07 That's true. That lived in our continent. That's true. We never we never learned about it. We didn't learn about the titles. 20:13 Why is it that you're having a seventh grader teach a class on this? That's true. Right. It shouldn't be it shouldn't be 20:18 up to me to teach it. It should be up to the teachers. It should be part of our curriculum, but it's not. 20:24 You know what? That's very interesting. I think about like even the di like we didn't even learn that you that 20:30 Christopher Columbus never set foot in the United States of America and we're like Columbus discovered America but he 20:36 never set foot in America, right? And I'm like it took a while and 20:42 I'm like and then what they were teaching in school was different than what my parents were talking about. My parents was like oh no man he he did a 20:48 lot of savagery things like he raped you know tenos even raped men women you know what I'm saying? 20:55 Mhm. And you're like, but over here they were like, oh, he's such a hero. It was confusing as a kid. Like he's such a hero. But then my parents are telling me 21:01 something completely different who Christopher Columbus was. And then then I come to find out that this man never 21:07 like how he discovered America. He never he didn't even know what it looked like. Turns out he's even he's buried in DR. 21:14 You know that, right? Yeah. I love him. No. The bro, you should see it. They have 21:21 like over there they have like this massive sand. It looks like the end of the world type shit. 21:29 But that burial. Wow. Like this dude like 21:37 Jesus. 21:45 [Laughter] 21:54 Yeah, a matter of fact, back in the day, they used to light up a cross. His his burial 22:00 used to light up a cross in the sky, bro. 22:05 But it was costing too much money, so they stopped doing that shit. But I remember at night time I was like, "Yo, why?" They have Al Faro de Colum 22:12 and they have his remains in the center of the cross and like and they turn on the light at 22:18 night time the cross was shine across the sky in Dominican Republic. Wild. 22:23 Yeah. And they have like uh I think you know how they have the na the pint and 22:28 the Santa Maria they have like the the anchors of the ship in there like like that you walk in 22:34 there you're walking and then they they have years of all his voyages that he came to the well the Americas for them 22:41 was the Caribbean the Espanola you know what I'm saying which is you know 22:46 well it's cuz you know in elementary school at least the way that I remember it it like they tell you about Columbus 22:53 and how he discovered America. You have little plays on that. Mhm. And then that's you know that that's 22:59 that's all you know. So do you hear about Christopher Columbus's diary? No. What tell me about it. He said the Dino people um and he wrote 23:06 in his diary like these people are very giving. They don't withhold anything. They love to share. They're very 23:15 these are good people. They will make great servants. 23:22 Can you imagine like this dude was received well, was treated well, they 23:27 gave him, they offered him everything like they were like, you know, and they was 23:34 Can you imagine going to somebody's house, right? And they treat you well. They don't cafe me. Whatever you ask, 23:42 they give it to you. They they're there for you. And then you're going to write in your journal like, "These guys are so 23:47 nice. They're so good. They're going to make gray slaves one day. 23:56 See, and that's the stuff that they don't teach you in school. Yeah. No, all you know is like, oh, 24:02 Christopher Columbus came. Mhm. He was trying to go to India, made a 24:07 mistake, let him in America, and it's like, oh, and these are Indians. Yeah. They don't tell you about all the, you 24:13 know, all the raping that he enabled. No, they don't tell you about the disease that they carried over. They don't tell you about the atrocities that that man 24:19 caused. No, it's not until years years later that you're like, "Oh, the only the only person that I felt 24:25 like I heard about the atrocities were from my parents." My parents like because you also got to think about 24:30 like, you know, the Dominicans, the Caribbean, they they experienced 24:35 firsthand the atrocities that happened under Christopher Columbus. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. 24:40 So, they're gonna have a different perspective. I grew up with, you know, them saying all this shit, right? But 24:46 then it was just conflicting because you go to school in America they were like this guy's such a hero 24:52 but then at home I'm like these guys are firsthand they already is already passed down like a lot of the indigenous people 24:59 and now all of them are gone like there's there's Dominicans that they people are saying like like theos are 25:05 extinct but like they're not really extinct because a lot of Dominicans have dino blood 25:10 right there people I just saw somebody not so long ago that that at 30% Tino. 25:18 Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. So I was like, they're not really extend. They live amongst us. And 25:23 there's a lot of niggas that are mixed with white, black, and tyino blood. You see what I'm saying? And they were good 25:28 people. Yeah. Good people. That like they didn't even believe in killing people. Like they were so against that. Like their swords 25:34 were made out of wood, which is the stupidest thing that anybody could do. 25:43 I mean, you know, there's a whole day dedicated to the dude. Yeah. Right. Christopher Columbus Day. 25:48 Columbus Day. Yeah. Yeah. We got We got statues of that motherfucker with NDR, too. Yeah. That's why that's why instead we, 25:54 you know, I think I think we've we've reverted to calling it Indigenous People's Day. Indigenous people's day. 26:00 Cuz it's just, you know, why are we celebrating this man? Yeah. Why are we celebrating this, man? This this conqueror. 26:06 Yeah. I feel like indigenous people like are underrated, bro. Underrated. I'm like, they if you think 26:13 about it, they had trades all over the place. They they transported goods between one island to another, 26:20 right? They had like a whole system here in United States of America. Like the indigenous people, like I think when we 26:27 think about indigenous people, people think about, oh, they were just ignorant people. They didn't know anything about 26:32 like these people built canals, right? They have systems in place. You 26:38 see what I'm saying? A lot of them died off. Most of the that 90% were disease, right? But then when the Europeans came, 26:45 they also they did a lot of atrocities. Yeah, they did. Right. But we don't learn about that because 26:50 they sanitize those books. Oh, yeah. And they're going to sanitize it even more, bro. Yeah. Yeah. No, of course they're sanitizing 26:56 it even more. Yeah. Do you see uh the Trump administration, they're trying to the Smithsonian. 27:02 Yeah, they're trying to clean up the the Smithsonian to better fit Trump's view of history, 27:07 br What world are we living in, br? Like, we already don't have proper education. Then you want to make us even 27:13 dumber. Oh, yeah. I think that's the that's the best way cuz I think he has an understanding that you could really 27:19 control people. You could really control people, you know, like like if you you could erase history from their minds 27:26 because they don't really learn it, you know. I to be honest with you, I did not know. I just found out right now like 27:32 that people used to use slave skulls as as cups. Mhm. Like that's fucking atrocious. 27:39 Right. They used to use like slave hair as a pillow or furniture. They used to use slave 27:46 bones as furniture. That's wild. No. Yeah. They're they're trying to 27:51 rewrite slavery. Slavery. The history of slavery in the United States. They're trying to sanitize it to 27:56 be like it wasn't that bad. It wasn't that bad, but we're talking about it was 400 years of this or 28:02 terrible. One of the biggest inhumane things. Yeah. But that's why that that's an 28:08 issue that if we don't learn about it or if we learn the wrong things about it. 28:13 Yeah. You know, like this is like we can't sanitize history. We can't go back and be like, you know, history, you know, 28:20 slaves were actually pretty treated pretty well. Like no no slavery is slavery. Slavery is slavery. 28:25 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, and the thing is like you you can't go back you can't go into the textbooks and eliminate that fact. 28:31 Yo, you ever thought back like like how will you be as a slave? No. 28:37 Never. I never thought about it. I thought about it. I'll be the worst slave. 28:48 I got Bro, can you work all day? No. No. No. No. No. And the sun. No. No. I 28:54 cannot. And the worst thing about it, they make example. You ever heard of the Willie Lynch letter? No. 29:00 Willie Lynch is a dude that this dude, bro, the Willie Lynch was the dude that 29:05 used to teach slave master how to tame a slave. So he's like, you know how these gurus be online? Like, you know, get 29:11 send me your email. I'll send you my ebook. He was like, he was like one of those he 29:16 was a coach. He was like a slave coach. So he would go around and he would teach people how to like tame their slaves. 29:22 And he had like he he used to have a systems. He had it's called the Willie Lynch letter. And the letter states like 29:29 how you separate, you know, from lighterkinned black folks to darkerkinned black folks, right? And if 29:35 you have a slave that that is rebellious, this is how you get everybody else in line. And he would 29:42 talk about atrocious things like grabbing a slave and having four horses, 29:48 tying each limb to a horse and have his family watching and every 29:54 other all the slaves watching and they like hit the horse, slap the horse. So all four horses would run opposite 30:01 direction ripping this man limb by limb. 30:07 That was the type of teaching Willie Lynch was teaching people. And they were like, you had to separate lighterkinned 30:14 black folks with dark from darkerkinned black folks just to put them against each other. Yeah. 30:19 It was like he was like crazy. That's insane. There's You never heard about the Willy 30:25 Lens letter? No. The way they teach that shit in school? 30:36 That's wild. That's wild. But that's hard. Like I mean we know about the atrocities about what happened 30:42 you know with slaves in general right and even then the history that is taught that is shown 30:48 is very sanitized now. Yeah. We know that it was much worse. Yeah. 30:53 Right. We used to know that slaves used to get eaten by dogs. Yeah. Right. Like there's a whole like nobody 30:59 like we think about slavery we think about oh they're you know they're just doing things around. No. No. slaves were 31:05 like like it it was a terrible time terrible time for the United States. It's a terrible time for the world. 31:11 Bro, you'll be uh that Charlie guy, what's his name? Charlie Kirk. 31:16 Mhm. Started saying like, "Oh no, why why would we give black people reparations while slaves are getting paid with 31:21 housing and food?" 31:27 I'm telling you, the thing the thing is the more you repeat it, the more you spread it around, the more people believe it. 31:32 People will believe it. people like, "Oh, no. Yeah, you're you're actually right." Yeah. Oh, oh, yeah. They were paid. Oh, 31:38 that makes sense. Yeah. Like, it's And it's And it's dumb. Here's the thing. America is a very 31:43 toxic place. Yeah. And nobody likes to admit that about themselves. Everybody likes to admit that they were 31:48 wrong. Imagine a whole country telling the whole country that our history is wrong, 31:53 that we were the bad guys in history. Yeah. But I think it's okay to admit it. Like, I think 31:59 it's perfectly okay to admit. Yeah. Yeah. I think the one thing I respect about Germany, Germany was came out was like, "Yo, we regret what we did 32:06 and we apologize and they they put memorials together for the things that happened to the Jewish people there." 32:12 You see what I'm saying? Yeah. America refuses to do that. United States refuses to do that. 32:18 Yeah. You know why? Because that's seen as weak. 32:24 They don't like to be even Yeah. Even Australia, they've apologized to the Aboriginal people. We 32:31 still haven't done stuff like that. No, of course we haven't. Yeah. And everybody everybody else have 32:37 gotten reparations the black except the black Americans, United States of America. Everybody has gotten their 32:43 reparations. Even the Japanese people that went through the the internment camps, 32:48 the interment camps, they got reparations. You see what I'm saying? What about black folks? 33:00 that way. You know that that's what it is. Mhm. But anyway, 33:05 you you do you see like the whole Nick Fuentes going against Candace Ozones? No, 33:10 bro. I don't even want I don't even want to talk about those fools. Well, why not? Because they're dumb. Like the thing is 33:16 they want people talking about them. That's true. Here's the thing about the Charlie Kirks and the Candace Owens and the Nick 33:22 Fuentes. They say stupid shit so that we share it and we react to it. 33:28 And that's the thing about it. I refuse to even acknowledge their existence because I don't think it's helpful to 33:34 combat that. I don't think it's helpful to uplift to amplify Fox News people. I don't think it's 33:39 helpful to amplify any any of these motherfuckers. You know why? Because that's exactly what they want. They want the eyeballs. Even if you're criticizing 33:46 them, even if they're saying how wrong they are that they want, you're still you're still giving them a 33:51 platform. You're still giving them the platform. Yeah, absolutely. Because that's what they want. I didn't even think about that. Yeah, 33:56 because it helps you. It benefits you with somebody talking even negatively. That's how they they thrive in that rage bait 34:01 because a lot of people go and grab a clip, they react to their clip and they're like 34:06 and they look you're giving more publicity. They more people seeing their I didn't even think about that. You're amplifying the message. And I 34:11 think like even when you're I think that's why like when even when it comes to disinformation or misinformation, organizations have made it clear like 34:18 whenever you're disproving something or want to uh uh you want to put out the 34:24 truth, just talk about the truth. You don't need to amplify the disinformation or the misinformation. You don't need to 34:30 be putting out you because you're what you're essentially doing when you do that is that you're amplifying the 34:35 information. M you're giving people uh you're giving it credibility even if you're trying to 34:41 disprove it and you don't want that. And it's the same thing with a lot of these pundits with a lot of these talking head ads 34:47 like no like that they want people to react to their content. 34:53 And that's why I I didn't even think about it like and that's why I'm I've known this since that blonde woman who says dumb shit. 35:02 Uh the Tommy Lauren. No, even before her, like this is there's so many of them. 35:07 This is back in Yeah, this is back in the day. She goes back to the 90s. Uh where she um I'm not even gonna say her 35:13 name, but she what she used to do is pretty much just say outlandish shit and 35:18 everybody would be like, "Oh my god, can you I want to know. I'm pretty sure people listening to right now, they want to 35:24 know." Can her uh her platform is to 35:31 essentially do that. Rage bait. Rage bait. She was one of the earliest rage baiters. Uhhuh. She was al alongside Rush Limbaugh and 35:38 all the old school Republicans from back in the day. Okay. All right. So back and with her she used 35:44 to just say wild racist sexist shit all the time. 35:51 And then people would be like, "Can you believe what she said?" And then replay what she would say. 35:57 And then you're like, "What?" Like you're just all you're doing is just amplifying that message. that toxicity, 36:04 all that. You're just amplifying that message because everybody's talking about it. And there's going to be people who be like, "You know what? She's there going to be there's going to be 36:10 people where they're like, you know what, she's right. I'll buy her book." 36:16 And that's and that's the thing about it. And that's the cycle. They get the attention. They get the eyeballs. Good or bad, they get the eyeballs. 36:23 It's a I love pro wrestling. Pro wrestling is like my favorite thing. Yeah. Yeah. But a lot of politics and a 36:30 lot of political discourse is very much based in pro wrestling. In pro wrestling, you have the 36:36 it doesn't matter. You got you have to you're a baby face or you're a heel. Yeah. The thing the general rule of thumb in 36:41 wrestling though is that you can't be boring. You got to make sure that the audience 36:46 that is that is watching you is reacting to what you're doing. Doesn't matter whether it's good, 36:52 whether it's bad. John Cena was great at this. John Cena was a top baby face for a very long time to the point where 36:58 people were getting sick and tired of him and they would boo him. No way. So he would get cheers and he would get 37:04 booze. But the thing is one time he was just like it doesn't matter. It doesn't 37:09 matter whether you cheer for me or whether you boo me. You are here and you are being loud about your reactions and 37:16 you're having a good time and that's what matters. It doesn't matter. The worst thing that can happen in pro 37:22 wrestling is that you get no reaction, is that you're boring. So, we apply that to politics and the 37:30 political discourse. And all of these influencers and all these talking heads, 37:36 doesn't matter whether you agree with them or disagree with them as long as you're reacting to them, 37:41 that's what gives them life. It just feels like it became a circus act. It's totally a circus. 37:48 It's been a circus. It's been a circus for a very long time. You think it's always been a circus? 37:53 It's always been a circus. I don't think it's always Yeah, it kind of it's been a circus because before it was like We used to pretend that it wasn't a 37:59 circus. Yeah, that's part of the problem. We used to pretend that that politics was, you 38:04 know, cordial and, you know, oh, this is we have sophisticated things to run this country. You know, this is what we do in 38:11 Congress. And and then it became it became another circus. You have representatives in the 38:18 House who say stupid shit all the time because they want people to be they want 38:23 people to clip them. They want to be on Fox News. They want to be on C-SPAN. They want to be on all the major news 38:28 outlets. Can you believe what this person said? Can you believe what this representative from Georgia has said? Oh my god. 38:34 I remember I remember like like like even like Margie Taylor Green, right? Like she's still up there. She 38:41 still holds a seat. bottom line. And this is a woman that I remember there was a video of her like she was harassing one of uh the Parkland uh you 38:48 know the mass shooting in the Parkland school. I don't know if you ever remember that she followed this kid that was a victim of and she was like 38:56 antagonizing him saying a whole bunch of shit about but this man and just lost a lot of his friends and the mass 39:01 shooting. Mhm. Right. Yeah. And that this you like this public stunt. Right. And I 39:08 just feel like nobody was ever able to be like, "Yo, you gotta go." Like before, I think there's also there's 39:14 also a difference because back in the day, like if you did something embarrassing, you would have been like, "Hey, you know what? I resigned." 39:20 Nowadays, you don't resign. You do something messed up like they you get applauded for it. Like the whole was it 39:27 Ted Cruz? He flew to Miami when there was like a like when it froze over. Remember that? 39:33 Oh, no. But Ted Cruz, he left he fled Texas to go to Cancun. 39:38 To go to Cancun during a storm. During a storm. Yeah. Right. During during an ice storm during 39:44 like the win like when when when Texas froze over froze over and people died. People died. And this dude 39:55 But again, he's part of the same problem. And he and he didn't resign. He didn't say that. The thing is, if your name is in the 40:01 headlines, it's constantly in the headlines for whatever reason, you're going to get clicks, but more 40:06 importantly, you're going to get money. You're going to get supporters. Do you think that it's more like social media? Of course. 40:13 It's all about getting attention. It's all about getting eyeballs. Yeah. I saw I saw him like there was times like he would like there's also a 40:20 video of him like he going through like Twitter and see if he's trending. 40:25 He'll sit there in meetings. They like scroll like oh I'm not trending right trying to see if he's trending on 40:30 Twitter. Yeah. This is this is what it's become all about now. Uhhuh. C-SPAN or whatever wherever you get. 40:37 People don't watch that no more. People here's the thing. People don't watch it but people clip it. 40:42 People clip the best moments the best moments from there. Oh, look at look at this person calling this person out. Look at this person's speech. Yeah. 40:49 Because that's your moment to shine. you're if you have a two minutes to go 40:54 up and say something, you're going to say something that will hopefully go viral. So that that that you know what I feel 41:01 like that goes in hand with streaming. You if you think about like these streamers is all about clipping. They 41:07 talk about all clipper you going to clip for. If you follow me, you got to clip and they're like they paid good amount 41:13 of money. They paid Here's the thing about it. Streamers can do that. Social media people can do 41:19 that. Personalities can do that. Instagram uh influencers can do that. 41:24 You have every right to do that. But doing it I want my politicians to be at a higher standard though. 41:29 Yeah. And that's the thing about it. The the Congress is not at a higher standard 41:35 right now. It's trash. It's garbage. Everyone's just spewing. Everyone's trying to be Trump Jr. right now. 41:41 Yeah. They're all just trying to get their eyeballs and get supporters and get 41:47 and and get donors to to to donate to their next campaign. And and I honestly don't think that if you're a politician, 41:52 you shouldn't even have a podcast. You shouldn't. But Ted Cruz has a podcast. Why? Ted Cruz has a podcast. Like even 41:59 like even Gusm, he has a podcast. Why? He has a podcast. Governor, what are you 42:04 doing? I look this across the board. I don't care if you're Democrat or Republican. Nah, this isn't the way that we should 42:11 be. We should be operating. Why are you podcasting? Is that a fly? 42:17 I don't know, bro. You see it? I don't see it. It's very small. It's like a gnat. Like a fruit fly 42:23 or a gnat, 42:30 bro. It's a gnat. I'm glad it's from the plants. 42:37 All right, back to the talk. I'm glad we were able to resolve that. He got right on the microphone on the 42:43 camera. So anyway, all this to say, all of this to say 42:51 [Laughter] 43:00 And we go all the way around. A full circle. It's a full circle. Damn. They He betrayed us, bro. 43:09 Then the next night goes on and says, 43:16 "Are you going to look you look exactly what she said?" Yeah. I want to make sure that I get it right. She says something, "It's true what my 43:22 father said." Or something like that. Right. No, no, no, no. Um 43:27 the following night, Akila addressed the crowd directly. She said, "I don't want to miss the opportunity to be on the 43:33 stage without speaking my truth." And for me, even though artists might not say it because it's not convenient for 43:40 them, I do want to represent Mexicanameans. I do want to say that's what's happening 43:45 to our people. That what that what's happening to our people isn't right and I won't stand for it. She went further. 43:51 I was born in Los Angeles and my father said something yesterday. He was very proud to be in the United States and a 43:59 very proud and very proud to be Mexican-American, a legal one, bruh. 44:11 So, did she get backlash? Is she going viral because of it? Like, is she getting I mean, again, phrasing, 44:19 look, I don't know what her intent is. Again, I can't make that kind of I can't make that judge. I can't. You 44:25 can't. I can't I can tell you I'm making I'm judging that bitch. Your words. What is a legal Mexican 44:32 American? But why why emphasize legal? Legal like when you emphasize legal is like we 44:38 know what you mean, bro. And and right now they're trying to look into how can they take away the 44:44 citizenships of a lot of US citizens, like Latino citizens. The Trump administration wants to get 44:50 rid of birthright citizenship. Yeah. What does that tell you? that it's not about being legal. No, 44:55 it's about it's not about this this bullshit about doing things the right way. No, no, no, no. 45:01 People have been doing it the right doing things right the the right way and they're still being attacked right now. ISIS in DC, 45:07 bro. ISIS in LA. What's up with this chaos? It's it's all chaotic, bro. But the 45:13 thing is, as Latinos, we have a responsibility to defend our people. to defend our people but also like again 45:21 I don't know in her true intentions but your words mean something especially when you have a platform 45:27 your words mean mean a lot so when you emphasize legal when Pepe Aguiler says you know we have 45:34 to do things legally what are you trying to say what are you trying to say I got I got a question you hear about 45:40 the aliens that's coming over here which ones 45:46 what are we talking about Yeah, the aliens like from from outer space. Outer space. 45:52 Those maros? No, there there's a there's a spaceship. They're saying there's a spaceship that's passing Jupiter right now that's 45:59 going to get to to Earth. It's all all over the internet. It's going to get to Earth by November 2025. 46:09 And those are the real illegal immigr aliens. Those are real illegal. We just had a 46:15 conversation about how we're this country is so uneducated 46:20 and here we do. Okay, I'll I'll play with this. 46:30 Superman. Uhhuh. Immigrant. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, 46:35 he's an immigrant. Yeah. Yeah. He's also he's he's he's from he's from 46:41 outer space. Yeah. He's from Krypton. He's from Krypton. Yeah, he's Kryptonian. Yeah, but the the planet blew up. 46:48 Yeah. So, he's a refugee. He's a refugee. Yeah. So, he's a legal alien. Yeah. 46:54 He He came seeking asylum. He came seeking asylum. And he And you know what? He's better off on Earth 47:01 trying to do good things. Yeah. He's been helping us out. He Well, he never goes to Harlem. 47:08 He I never seen Superman help black people cuz he lives in Metropolis. That's why I never seen Superman. He's in No, he 47:16 lives in New York. Is it in New York? Superman 47:21 isn't Superman helping out New York. Superman is in Metropolis. It's not New York. 47:27 It's not New York. It's not. This whole time I'm Do you not know your comic book history? 47:33 I swear to God that you mean to tell me Superman this whole time. Superman is not New York. Superman is 47:39 Metropolis. Batman is Gotham City. You do know that you you do know that this isn't 47:45 their characters don't play don't don't play on in the same realm that we do this whole time. 47:51 Spider-Man is Queens. He's New York. Spider-Man's New York. Spider-Man is New York. Spider-Man's New York. Captain America 47:58 is Brooklyn. Captain America's Brooklyn. Captain America's Brooklyn. So where is Metropolis? Metropolis. 48:11 I mean, all comic book characters are. Yo, wait a minute. So, this whole time I thought Superman was in New York, like 48:17 helping out New York City. Superman is not New York. No. Why it look like New York? Because, you know, that's that's just that's just what it looks like. But it's 48:23 not New York. It's Metropolis. Uh, I just thought he was racist. 48:30 I never seen him in a Dominican area in the Washington Heights helping out one Dominican or nothing. I'm sure. You know 48:36 what? But that's also a fair point. Metropolis probably does have not one black person. 48:41 You know, it's got they got no hoods, no Harlems, no 48:46 Comptons. Mr. Terrific is black. Mr. Terrific is black, but they had to 48:53 had one in there because they're like, they probably like, "Yo, look at these." He stole the show. He stole the movie. He stole the movie. He killed it. 48:59 Absolutely. He killed it. Wow. You know what they made up with Mr. Teric? Matter of fact, James Gun 49:04 Superman is probably is dope as shit. Of course it is. Yeah. I I enjoyed it. I thought it was Look at 49:10 that. Positivity. Positivity. Good positivity. It was dope. They killed it, bro. It It 49:15 reminded me of the old school Superman. Like it it remind It gave me Christopher Reeves Superman vibes, bro. 49:22 Yeah. It's It's colorful. It's happy. It's I like that. I like my Superman to be hopeful. 49:28 Yeah. Emo Superman. Is that what it was 49:33 before? I think before he was just very broody and like it was just very dark. Yeah. 49:39 And it's like no no Batman can be that. Yeah. Superman's got to be not that. Superman's got to be positive. He's got 49:45 to be looking look looking to in instill hope into people. Yeah. The old school Superman was like 49:52 more relatable. But then the I don't know DC brought like this dark Superman 49:57 whatot. Yeah. Well, it's cuz you know the Dark Knight happened, right? and they're like, "Well, you know, Batman is dark. 50:03 It's broody." But I think again, that's just not knowing the characters. Batman is supposed to be dark and 50:09 broody. Like, that's kind of his mo. That's what he does. Superman can't be that. Superman is 50:15 supposed to be somebody who's trying to do a good thing. That like in this last movie, he saves a squirrel. 50:21 Yeah, he do saves a squirrel. You know why? Because the squirrel has every right to live just like everybody else. 50:27 That's Superman. Yeah, cuz I I don't ever remember like the other Superman saving people. 50:32 The other Superman saved people, but he also killed people. Yeah. Like he not killed people. He killed He killed Zod. 50:38 Okay. And then he's all like, you know. Yeah. 50:44 But you know, I just Yeah. I just feel like it's a little different. Yeah. 50:49 But Superman is an immigrant. He is an He's an immigrant. We need a Dominican Superman. What do 50:55 you think? A Mexican Superman. What do you think? Uh, who we got? We got Blue Beetle. 51:01 That's That's what we got. That's That's all we got. Yeah, that's that's that's all we got. You like the Blue Beetle movie? 51:06 Yeah, I like I like Blue Beetle. I thought I thought it was good. What do you think about Robert Patterson being Batman? I like it. 51:12 The three-hour Batman. Yeah. He was too He was too emo for me. I I like that though. He's young. 51:18 He's like a young version. Yeah. He's young and emo and like, you know, he's a detective. He's more of a detective and I like that. There was a 51:24 lot of things that that wasn't congruent for me. It was like like it was just 51:29 weird because you got the detective like the head detective working with him and it was just and then they're looking at the wall and then you see pictures of 51:37 Robert Patterson and then pictures of Batman and then they're both looking at the 51:43 wall and the and Batman goes like I think they're talking about me. I'm like, "Obviously, nigga. 51:51 Obviously." [Laughter] He's like, "And then he said the the 51:58 what was the the detective? What's his name?" Who? The main detective, the the head 52:04 detective in Batman. Gordon. Gordon. Yeah. Yeah. He turns around. Why do you say that? I'm like, the wall. 52:11 The wall is full of pictures of Bruce Wayne and fucking Batman. that you know 52:18 what I'm saying? It was just a couple of like and then oh what about the first riddle? 52:24 The first riddle what happened 52:29 what the first riddle was what happens when a congressman dies. 52:35 Mhm. Right. What happens when 52:41 and he and the Batman goes like lie still. what happens to a lying 52:46 congressman or whatever after he dies. And then Batman goes like, 52:51 "Lie still." And then Gordon was like, "You figured 52:57 that out?" They're like, "You mean to tell me, oh, yeah, it's in this room?" I figured that out once they read the 53:02 riddle. It was the easiest, simplest riddle to 53:09 ever. Yeah, I figured it out. Like, and I don't know. And the long stairs at these little kids, it was a little 53:15 weird, too. The stair like Robert P had that stare like 53:21 I don't know. I just I like I like that they acknowledge that he puts on makeup on his eyes. 53:28 He do put makeup on his eyes. Yeah, he puts makeup on his eyes. And uh I think that's important. But he didn't have the Batman voice. 53:34 No, I liked it. I I liked it. Yeah, cuz he's young. He's supposed to be young. Like he's got like 53:39 the that like dude brick voice. No, he was like, "What do you do?" That's 53:45 exactly how 53:52 Yeah. He was talking to Joker. He's like, "What are you?" No, it was not Joker. It was the Riddler. He was like, "What do you do?" I like, "Oh my god." 54:00 I'm all for it. I loved it. I'm like, it was great. Yeah. I hope they don't do a second version. 54:06 They got Yeah, they're doing a part two. Of course they are. I'm still watching. You know why? Cuz the first one was great. 54:11 The first one was not good. First one was great. I loved it. Two thumbs up. No, it was trash. 54:17 Absolutely. No, it was trash. But I'm going still watch it. I'm a hat or watch. You're going to hate hate watch it. 54:22 I'm going to hate watch it. It's fine. You know why? Cuz they're getting your eyeballs anyway. 54:28 We were just talking about hate watch it. Talking about that. Hate watch. Then we're going to clip it. Mhm. Okay. Yeah. 54:33 No, man. M I appreciate you coming through today, my brother. Like, yo, 54:39 this conversation went all over the place. All over the place. We're all over the place. And it's okay, 54:45 you know. Uh, uh, noto, you're going to see more Noto coming through. Uh, we've been having a lot of discussions and we 54:52 have a lot of things store for you guys. I appreciate you guys tuning in and listening and hanging out, having fun 54:58 with us, like being here in the living room doing this. Like, this is fun for me, you know? Is it fun for you? Is it 55:03 fun? Yeah, it's fun. It better be. It better be fucking fun. So, no. Hey, subscribe to the channel, 55:09 man. If you're listening, listen, subscribe. 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