In this episode, Gadiel Del Orbe sits down with Norberto Briceño to talk culture, ego, and life lessons. They dive into The Rock’s recent health scare, the truth about steroids vs. aging naturally, and why his movies feel repetitive. The conversation shifts to the Dominican Republic’s live-streaming takeover with Santiago Matías’ La Casa de Alofoke, and the addictive pull of reality TV. They also break down the shocking wrestling incident involving Rampage Jackson’s son, explore why humans are drawn to gossip, and revisit the Will Smith vs. Chris Rock slap. Gadiel closes with a powerful message to young listeners about anger, ego, and why walking away from fights can save your life.
0:00 – Back in the studio: DR & Mexico talk
1:25 – The new American Dream & dual citizenship
2:40 – The Rock’s health scare & steroid debate
6:30 – Aging, fitness, and Hollywood pressures
9:00 – Why The Rock’s movies feel repetitive
13:00 – A24’s The Smashing Machine & risks in acting
14:50 – Dominican livestream boom: La Casa de Alofoke
20:00 – Reality TV vs. brain-rot content
25:30 – Should we actually watch it?
33:00 – Why humans love gossip & stories
34:50 – Live streaming = the new campfire
36:20 – Rampage’s son wrestling incident explained
42:30 – Wrestlers, receipts & the referee’s role
46:30 – Ego, anger issues & accountability
54:45 – Will Smith vs. Chris Rock – justified or not?
59:30 – Life lessons: walking away from fights
1:02:20 – Scrappy’s story & why violence isn’t worth it
1:03:10 – Final thoughts & message to the youth
0:00 My main man norto is back. 0:05 Back. Back. Back. Back from Mexico. Right. You just came from Mexico. No. Okay. 0:10 I've been here this entire time. Okay. Well, I thought you were in Mexico. No. No. 0:18 Did you just come back from the DR? Is that what happened? I wish I did. Oh, yeah. Yes. You to DR. 0:24 Why weren't you in the DR? I wish I was in DR. I thought you Dominican. You're supposed to be there all the time. I know. I know. Why are you here? 0:33 Don't you ask yourself that as a Mexican? You be like, "Damn, what the fuck am I doing here in Dominica?" I mean, 0:38 United States. You ever think about that? Uh, often. All the time. 0:43 Yeah. Especially during the winter. No, I like the winter though. Is that Is it a Latino thing to think 0:49 about going back to your home country at all time? I don't know if it's if it's a Latino thing. I know I can say that for me 0:55 Uhhuh. I think about going to Mexico often. all the I think about Dominican Republic and I'm just like 1:02 yes when I was a kid I didn't understand that but now I'm a grown man I think about my parents I'm like why why do you 1:10 guys come here you know because they came here for the opportunity they came they came to this country for 1:17 the opportunity to make money to give us a better life and now we have the privilege of being like you know what 1:25 let's be hon let's be let's go back Let's go back. Yeah, there's a lot of people moving back. 1:31 There's a lot of Latino, especially our generations are moving back. Like, you know, I'm trying to get my Dominican 1:36 citizenship. There's a lot of people, especially us. Are you first generation or second generation? 1:41 I'm first generation. I'm first generation, too. Yeah. And do you get your the Mexican citizenship? I'm waiting for my brother to get it 1:47 first. Then once he gets it, then I'll be like, "All right, this is how you do it." So, I I would like to get my Mexican 1:53 Mexican citizenship. Right now, I'm trying to get a Dominican citizenship because like I think the American dream used to be like get the house, white 2:00 picket fence, have your family here in United States of America, right? But I feel like the American dream has 2:05 changed. The American dream now is live in your country making American dollars. 2:12 I I don't think Americans are living have a a healthy standard of living. 2:17 Absolutely not. No. No. We we uh we work our asses off 2:23 for what? For what? I don't know. To to be more in debt. To be more in debt and have a little bit 2:29 left over for health insurance. Exactly. 2:41 Bro, you saw what's going on with The Rock. 2:46 I know that he has like some type of heart disease or stuff like that. I mean, come on, bro. 2:52 Bro, is that years? What do we What do we What do we like, look, I think, you know, The Rock tried 3:00 being The Rock. He tried to live up to his name. He tried to be this big man for such a long time. 3:06 Yeah. like like super masculine dude, you know, super nice guy, but also super 3:11 masculine. And he's Hawaiian, too. So like Hawaiians are known to be like big motherfuckers. He's a moaning. He's got some moaning 3:18 heritage. Yeah. Yeah. So they're naturally big. Yeah. He he's he's he comes from a 3:24 lineage. He comes from a bloodline of of very heavy people, 3:30 but he himself, you know, you look at him, that dude that dude is huge. And then that that's been his brand for 3:35 years. Yeah. But you know, we're humans. We're not machines, right? How you supposed to 3:41 maintain how you supposed to maintain that physique for such a long time? I think about that. Matter of fact, he's been like my 3:47 inspiration at the gym. I'm like, yo, if he could do it, I could do it, too. But I'm a real real one because I don't use any gear. 3:54 I'm just naturally looking like this. Yeah. He says he doesn't use gear. Hey, 4:01 says chick. Chicken and rice, bro. Chicken and broccoli. Ilo ami. You think he's going to admit 4:07 it, bro? Hell no. All those cats use gear. They never do. You can tell. And you can tell. You can tell. 4:13 Yeah. You do. You see who else has been using gear? That that Libert was using gear for a long time and he aged 4:20 quickly. I think I think it's okay to use gear after like a certain age though. 4:25 You think? Yeah. How you going to say after a certain age? just someone it's it's unhealthy. No, it's not because like it's 4:31 testosterone. Like our testosterone level goes down after a certain amount of time. Look, I'm not going to pretend I'm a 4:36 doctor because I I I don't know the science behind it. I don't I don't know much about I I I cannot say that for 4:43 certain any you know any medical information about what gear does and does not do to the body. So, 4:49 I'm not going to pretend like I do. However, however, you know, 4:55 we look, we saw wrestlers. Yeah, we saw wrestlers and how early they die. Yeah, but that's because they they OD on 5:01 the gear. I think they go extreme on the gear. I think they they throwing too much that the body's like, "Yo, and 5:06 supposed to You're supposed to cycle." Uh I don't know what kind of gear he was taking. And I bet you I don't even know 5:12 he was consulting a doctor. I I don't can't talk on it. I don't know. But isn't it somebody else that also is 5:17 having heart issues because of the gear? And we don't even know if it's the gear. Look, we we don't know if it's the gear. 5:24 We don't know. We're speaking out of our asses right now. That much is true. However, you know, when you when it when 5:30 push when you look take a step back and look at what's what's been happening, right, with not with athletes who take 5:36 gear constantly, right, or performance-enhancing drugs. I like to use pro wrestling as a big example of 5:42 people who use gear way too like way too often and it's like normal and but the thing is they die. 5:48 They die. Like they they they die so early and that's part of an issue, right? They have enlarged hearts. There's, you know, 5:55 uh, Hulk Hogan just died, right? So, was it from Gear? It wasn't from Gear, but that dude was 6:00 still was still pumping iron, you know, and and he's, you know, 6:07 you know, what are you doing pumping iron at that age? I'm I'm going to be pumping iron at that age, right? Like, and that's the thing about 6:14 it, right? Like, we see all these all these bulky dudes, right? We saw, you know, like Hulk Hogan died of heart 6:20 disease. Triple H right now is has a a hard pacemaker. He has he has a pacemaker, right? For real. 6:26 Yeah. And then you got The Rock having to become thin. Like, let's just be real about ourselves. Like, we don't like 6:36 No, this is the youngest that we will ever be. That is true. Yeah. I think I think you also I don't know. I 6:43 think I also looked at the rock too and I was like, "Yo, how old is he? 6:50 You got DNA. See? Yeah. And to look that good, defined, to have the veins coming out like the way that 6:55 he his veins come out. Too much vein. Too much vein. He looks exactly like my penis. 7:01 Like vain. 7:10 What? You want to talk about your penis a little more? What? Do you want to? No, I'm good. 7:17 I'm good. Now every time I see the rock, 7:35 look, he look he looks his age. There's nothing wrong with that. And and I think we got to normalize that. Like 7:40 and he looks great. He looks great for his age. He looks great. Like okay, cool. You lost you lost some weight and there's 7:46 nothing wrong with that. But it's also like let's just be real about let's be real about what we can do with our 7:51 bodies when we're young and let's be real about how we age. Like and I think that's I don't know. I think that's 7:57 important for I think I think it's an extra pressure because he's like the key person of influence at his company. He's the guy, 8:03 right? You know what I'm saying? He's the superhero. He's the action hero at the same time. You know what I'm saying? So it's like I think he it's it's 8:10 probably time for him to pass the throne to somebody else like me or somebody. He's so 8:19 sure. I agree. I agree. Hit him up. Be like that cuz I really like The Rock. 8:25 The Rock feels like he's such a nice wholesome guy. Here's the thing. He can still be wholesome. Like there's nothing wrong 8:32 with taking a step back from the gear, taking a step back from pumping iron and still be inspirational. He can still be 8:38 a good person. He can still be on brand for who The Rock is. The Rock has a 8:44 certain positivity that he likes to exude. You can keep doing that. You don't need to 8:50 necessarily be, you know, but his movies are trash. I didn't say that. Yes, you did. I didn't say that. No, 8:56 you thought about it. I thought about it. I didn't say they are trash. Like a scale of 1 to 10, 9:01 how trash are they? They're You know what? They're popcorn movies and we need those from time to 9:06 time. Also, you go to the movies, you turn off your brain, and you just you just watch. I actually enjoyed Yeah, I 9:13 enjoyed Black Adam. Okay. You know that is an opinion that 9:18 you have. You ain't like Black Adam. I thought Black Adam was a movie. 9:24 Definitely fit the criteria for a movie. Well, you thought it was Mirada. I didn't say that. 9:29 Okay. Thought about it. Maybe. 9:34 Also, it's cuz he has a clause in his contract. Apparently, this is all here. He apparently has a clause in his 9:39 contract that says that he cannot lose a fight a fight in any of his movies. 9:45 Why is that? Which kind of defeats the purpose like no, we want to see a hero who like falls 9:50 gets you know has his flaws get who fails and then comes back you know like 9:55 we want to see some dynamics. If you just put in your contract you can never lose a fight then what's the point? Then there's no Rocky. You are no Rocky. 10:02 There is no Rocky. There is no underdog. There's no reason to root for you if you just win all the time. You win all the time. That was one thing 10:07 I loved about Rocky because the first movie like was unexpected. He lost. Rocky lost his first fight. 10:13 Rocky lost his first fight and he got fucked up. But that's not what it's about. It's not about the victory. It's about getting 10:19 punched in the face and continuing to move forward. Yeah. How much how much can you take? 10:24 I love I love the whole point of Rocket is when he was like getting messed up and he was like, "Yo, you're like, get 10:30 up. Get up." And that's what life is all about. Like, are you the underdog? Are you going to get back up? 10:36 Mhm. M you know what I'm saying? That's and I think that's the type of story that we all love seeing. 10:41 Yeah. But when you start being like, "No, no, I can't lose. I got to be Apollo Creed all the time." It's like, "No, that 10:47 doesn't work either." So that's why it was one of those things where you can tell when, you know, look at all the Rocks movies. He never looks 10:54 weak. That's true. You know, for years, you're going to be looking weak now. 10:59 For years, when you lose all that weight. For years in pro wrestling, John Cena was called 11:05 Super Cena because that man never lost. Yeah. It got boring. 11:11 The worst period in WWE's history is when John Cena was at the very top and 11:18 would never lose. What? He was champion, never lost. Just when 11:23 you think he's about to lose, nope, he wins. And it got boring because you're 11:28 like, "This dude just wins all the time. every pay-per-view, every match, doesn't matter what it is. It could be 10 11:34 against one and John Cena will somehow find a way to win the match. And you're just like, yo, that is 11:39 boring. He had the same clause as The Rock. I don't know if it was the clause, but I know it was something that Vince McMahon 11:45 was like, this is what I want. Like, this man will never lose. And guess what? The Rock kind of took 11:51 that formula was like applied it to movies. And you're just like, then what the hell's the point? What's the point 11:56 of watching a, you know, a movie with the rocking if you know the man's never gonna take an L? 12:02 Yeah, that's true. That's true. But having said that, that's why I don't 12:08 know. I also I know he's trying to do some Oscar bait movie right now. Um, 12:14 with the what's it called? The machine. The I don't know. He was He's doing a movie that I saw. It's an 12:21 A24 movie. What? Yeah. A24 makes the best movies, bro. 12:27 When you say A24, you're like, I want to see that movie. Yeah. So, it's called The Smashing 12:32 Machine. Sounds like a porn and it's about It's not a porn. 12:38 So, The Rock right now is doing a movie is doing a movie called The Smashing Machine. Okay. 12:43 It's about the former UFC heavyweight tournament champion and NCAA wrestling 12:48 champion Mark Kerr. You ever heard of him? No. Nobody heard of him? No, I've heard of 12:55 him. But essentially, it's like a personal struggle movie. And and look, and if you if you watch the trailer, it 13:03 looks like The Rock's actually putting on a performance. He's not acting like The Rock. He's acting like an actual 13:08 character. So, you know, it's just a trailer. Do you think that's why The Rock movie suck? Because he never loses. That's the 13:15 only reason. No, he never loses and he plays the same character over and over again. Doesn't take any risks. Doesn't take any 13:21 chances. There's there's no depth like it's just the rock. The character could 13:26 be named Fano Deal. The Rock. It's just The Rock. 13:32 People like him in Moana. Guess what? Cuz Moana's like a completely different character, right? 13:37 It's not The Rock. It's It's not the It's somebody else. Yeah. Yeah. So, I I and I enjoy when when somebody 13:44 of his stature can take a little bit of a risk because we like seeing that. We like seeing people who take risk. Let me tell 13:50 you, I want to talk to you about like there's something to talk about risk, right? Um lately, I don't know if you've 13:55 been seeing like Dominican media has been killing it, bro. Like social media in Dominican Republic, 14:03 like live streaming like has been is like is a whole another level, bro. Like 14:09 it's is ridiculous the level it has gotten, bro. Yeah. You know, I don't know if you heard of 14:14 Alo. No. Tell me about it. Alo F is like you know they they do live streaming like 14:20 they have like the little podcast and stuff like that. So they were doing Kasal Famos remember Kasalamos I think 14:26 that's is it Tundo or something like that? I think that's Deisa. Yeah. All right. So you know Kasal Famos or 14:33 whatever. So so I guess you know when this Dominican dude that came out and won Casal Famoso you know this dude in 14:40 the yard was like yo what is that? And he's like, "Yo, you know what? How about I do that here in Dominican Republic?" 14:47 And he grabbed a whole bunch of influencers from Dominican Republic. Put them all in a house, bro. And he's live 14:55 streaming 24 hours a day, bro. 24 hours 15:00 a day. And they have like these crazy personalities. They're using the 15:05 bathroom. They're going to sleep. They're farting. They're brushing their teeth. They're 15:12 cooking. They're clubbing everything right before your eyes in 15:17 Dominican Republic. 15:22 Like it's an addiction because of how crazy these people are. What do you like about it? I don't watch it. 15:30 I don't watch it. Bro, I went to the club. I'm I'm also 15:35 that guy. I don't watch I don't watch nobody else like live stream. I don't You know what it is? I have this mentality that is like I don't like 15:41 watching other people. You see what I'm saying? I enjoy watching other people. 15:48 I can't I like I It's like for me it's like I want to live my life. Okay. Yeah. But I I live my life too, 15:54 but I also enjoy watching other people. Ain't nothing wrong with that. 16:00 I think it's just weird to be like, let me watch somebody else. You No, you're hanging out. Gives you the feeling you're just hanging out. 16:06 Like you're hanging out. Yeah. Yeah. Like you're hanging out with these people. and someone to put in the background. Yeah, it's just someone to put in the 16:11 background, you know? I think that's hanging out. I think that's what's going on. But over there, like like I was I was at the club this 16:18 weekend and bro, they put they on the big screen. They were streaming. 16:26 That's funny. while we in the club and you see them ando they also in their own 16:31 little club and they have their own theme song and they were playing the theme they played the theme song like five times at the 16:38 club kasal I keep saying kasalos kasal 16:44 that's funny bro and then the DJ was like I am team 16:49 crus and everybody's like I had a show that day was on Friday 16:56 night I had a show, bro. During the show, people were streaming watching 17:03 F. Yeah. And we had to call him up like, "Yo, you really watching Kasolo F while we at the 17:08 show, they're like, see, even afterwards that we started taking picture with the fans and stuff like that." There was a a 17:15 table full of fans, but they were like surrounded watching Kasalog. 17:21 I think that's that's cool. It is cool. Yeah, that's that's having 17:27 that's having influence right there. The man that started all this stuff, like his name is Santiago Matias. This 17:34 dude is like a genius, bro. Yeah, a genius, bro. I don't watch none of his 17:39 shit cuz, you know, I think also it's also I do feel like it's brain rock 17:45 content. And what's wrong with that? I feel like I think I think people got 17:50 to be careful what they consume. We're making brain rock content. Man, what are you talking about? Are we really? 17:56 I think so. We talk about everything that Yeah, we talk about everything, but it's a lot things about happen in a culture. 18:02 It's a little bit of brain rot. It's a little bit, bro. Well, they mostly talk about sex. 18:08 Sometimes we do talk about sex, too. Sure. You know, I just think that their 18:16 content their content is not how I say is really low quality. is 18:23 really like people arguing with each other like drama creating drama. Oh, we broke up. So, it's like it's very drama 18:30 filled like when real you know what I'm saying as a reality. It's like a reality show. It is a real Yeah, it's reality TV. 18:35 It's reality TV. And what's wrong with that? I'm just saying I I I think you're getting a little 18:41 judgy on that. I'm just I just don't consume I don't like consuming things like that 18:48 because I do think that it affects you mentally. Does it? I mean if if anything will 18:53 affect you mentally if you allow it to. I think everything everything that you consume will will definitely impact you 19:00 mentally. I think so. Okay. Like so so if you consuming content 19:05 that's always like high drama, high intense, it builds up cortisol levels, 19:10 right? And damn, I'm about to lose my voice. It's about feel like I got You mean you're talking about cortisol 19:16 levels now? Hold on. No, no. Keep it keep it on. Keep it on track. We're 19:22 We're talking about All right. So, Gadier de Lor does not approve of reality TV. 19:27 Mm- Is that what is that? Is that the headline here? I don't like it. You don't like it? Any type of reality TV? 19:33 Damn. Even Even Love Island. None of that, man. Don't Don't be talking shit about 19:39 Love Island. I don't I don't do none of that. I just don't think like I I For me, it's weird 19:44 to sit down and watch somebody else's life. But I think, you know what, it's all 19:51 with consent. They've consented to it that this is what they want like put out on into the world. 19:57 Yeah. You know, this I I think it's perfectly it's perfectly fine. It's entertainment 20:02 at the end of the day. It's entertainment as long as we cons like I do agree that there kind of is a certain 20:08 point where um people get too attached to what's going on. Sure. We've seen 20:13 plenty of people out there in the internet kind of like treating these people like if they're like their own 20:20 friends. Yeah. Which is always a problem, I think. Right. Um so there is, you know, just like 20:26 anything else in moderation, right? There's nothing wrong with it. There's nothing wrong with consuming 20:32 reality, but we don't but we don't live in a world of moderation no more. We don't. I mean, that's but that's personal 20:39 responsibility at that point. Yeah. I don't think people are living their own lives no more that people 20:44 don't go see each other. I mean, there's a reason why this show is very popular. There's a reason why 20:50 this show is very popular. There's a reason why Kasa Los Famos is so popular. There's a reason why Love Island is so 20:56 popular. There's a reason why plenty of reality shows that have to do with 21:01 watching people do things is is so popular. It's also gossip, too. You're like, "Yo, 21:07 did you see that?" It's very gossipy. Is gossip. I'm in it for the I'm in it for the cheese man. Give me all the 21:13 cheese. Give me all the cheese. And you know what the thing is though? Like back in the day like it's no different than t nollas. 21:19 Uhhuh. Our moms still watch it, right? Still watch Nollas. And that's thing about it. My mom watches 21:27 what what do the Cubans say? And so like, you know, it's it's something that we always strive for 21:34 because yes, our lives, our everyday lives, right? We're just trying to make money. We're just trying to pay bills, 21:39 right? We're just trying. We We go We go to work and we try to make a living. 21:45 Yeah. You know what? For a little bit of a distraction, it's okay to watch reality TV. Let's see how other people are 21:51 living their lives, bro. There's and and there's nothing wrong with that. And right now, there's like this new integrante, right? This is a comedian. 21:59 I'm a Carlos Mont. And I And it's not me watching. It's just me scrolling through TikTok. 22:04 Oh, it's not you watching. It's just scrolling. It's not you watching, bro. Okay. But I scrolling through Tik Tok and I see the 22:10 craziness this dude do. Like this dude's hilarious. And this dude does wild shit and 22:17 unexpected things. And I think people are hooked and watching that, bro. The this I think they I think they broke 22:24 like a billion views, bro. Yeah, they broke like a billion views, bro. 22:30 Probably because it's good entertainment. That's why the dude and this is just a trial run. 22:36 like then Santiago was like, "Let me try this thing out." And it's killing. I give my flowers to this man. 22:44 So then are you for watching it or are you against watching it? I don't watch 22:49 it, but I I I could give but but but but 22:55 okay I would I will go this I will give my flowers to the man that put that shit 23:00 together to Santiago because that I would say that man is a genius and he's he's playing his cards right. 23:07 Okay. Like I applaud the dude. You see what I'm saying? 23:12 Why not watch it so that you can properly critique it? No, because I 23:18 don't need to. I see I'm seeing the success of it. I think I watch as a 23:24 business standpoint as the man behind. But you say you don't watch it. I don't. I see it as that's why I look 23:30 at the whole thing. But you should you should see it. I'm afraid so that you can have a better well-rounded opinion about it. 23:36 I think I'm afraid of being sucked in. E may then did his job. Then you can 23:42 talk about that experience about how you were sucked in. 23:48 There's people even coming online go like I can't wait for this shit to end because I am hooked. 23:53 I got hooked. Look, I got hooked on Love Island. So, for me, I'm just like, and 23:58 here's the thing though, again, I used to be the type of person that used to look down on that stuff. I used to be 24:03 like, "Oh, it's not for me. It's not for me." You know, like, oh, watching Love Island. No, no, no. It's it's good 24:10 enjoyable entertainment. Is it good? No. But it's it is entertainment and it is enjoyable. And you know what? I'm okay 24:18 with it. Bro, I look I for me I like 24:23 everything's addicting. All right. So we got our phones already addicting enough. Mhm. All right. Like the social media. I'm 24:30 already like addicted to Facebook, to Instagram, Tik Tok. I'm addicted to all those and I admit it. Right. I don't 24:37 want to add something else to the plate. You see what I'm saying? And I'm I'm also I like to see the big picture of 24:43 things, right? I like to be the one like, "Oh, that's crazy how everybody's into this. 24:50 I like to see things from the outside world where like being I like observing human behavior. 24:59 That's what it is. Wouldn't that Wouldn't you be more of an observer, a better observer if you got 25:05 into the weeds of it? How about you watch it, you get in the weeds, and I watch you. 25:12 No, no, no. Because because because then you're just seeing things from my perspective. Exactly. As opposed to seeing things from your 25:18 your personal perspective. And I'm saving my time and you're wasting your time and I'm 25:23 saving my time. But then we're Look at us. We're talking about it. Exactly. But we're 25:29 But I am. If we want to give a better opinion, I it sounds like we we should both watch it. 25:35 This is what I This is what I'm getting out of this that we should probably both be watching this show. Should I watch it? The comment below if 25:41 I should watch it or should I not watch it or who's watching it right now and tell us why you like watching it. 25:49 How about that? I think if there was a poll, it'd be like yes and hell yes. So, it's I'mma put a poll. Can I Can you put a 25:55 poll on YouTube? I don't know. Try it. See what happens. Should I watch Kasal F or should I not watch a FO? Is it worth watching? 26:02 Yes. Yes. You know why? Because we're talking about it. No, because we're talking about it. 26:09 You know why I'm talking about it? Because it's extremely successful. It's probably one of the first live streaming 26:15 that hit over a billion views. A billion views in Dominican Republic. Like this 26:23 man has destroyed every other like legacy media over there, bro. This man is a walking 26:30 genius, marketing genius. That's why I'm talking about it because I'm also proud I'm also 26:37 proud that people in the country figured out something in social media that's working and killing and I'm I'm always 26:45 for the people, you know what I mean? Yeah. So, that sounds like you should 26:51 watch it. I'm I'm I'm supporting the show by talking about it but not watching it. 26:59 I think you should watch it. 27:04 But see, because we live in the world we live in society. This is what we do. We 27:12 live. We can't just take a step back. It's important to take a step back. Don't get me wrong. It's important to take a step back and look at the bigger 27:18 picture and all that stuff. Absolutely. But, you know, from time to time, it's also important for us to be in it. 27:25 I don't know. What is it that people find enjoy? Because you may watch it and not like it. Yeah. And then you ask yourself, why didn't I 27:31 like it? Or you may watch it and like it and be like, well, here's the reasons why I liked it. Yeah. I was I I was uh 27:38 It makes us better informed people as opposed to just be like, I don't like 27:43 it. Yeah. You know what it is? I was What book I 27:49 was reading? I forgot. It was like something greatly. Daring greatly, I think it was. And it talks about um like 27:56 there's there's two different types of people. There's people in the arena, right? And there's people in the 28:01 audience. You see what I'm saying? And you have to make a choice who you want to be. 28:08 You could be the guy that's in the arena that is that's doing the fighting, that's doing all the stuff, and people 28:14 are going to judge you and they're going to talk about you. And then there's the audience. You're the one watching everything. 28:21 You're the watcher. You know, you're like, you s you pay your ticket, you're sitting down, you're being entertained, 28:26 but you're also critiquing the guy within the arena. I rather be the guy in the arena. 28:34 But if you're in the business of providing entertainment, wouldn't you want to be both so that you 28:40 can be better at doing your job? Wrestlers, for example, pro wrestlers, 28:46 they they uh they watch their matches. They actually sit out secretly in the arena to watch other performers inside 28:53 of the ring so that they can better understand how an audience reacts to things. 28:58 It makes you a more well-rounded performer. Understanding not just being in not just 29:04 being in the ring and performing because that's one thing and that's important, but you also have to understand what the audience reacts to 29:11 and why they're reacting to certain things. That's why wrestlers tend to always be, you know, they're they're they're 29:17 watching matches. uh constantly. So, but are they watching Are they watching 29:23 matches or are they watching their own matches? They're watching matches. Other matches. Other matches. Yeah, they're watching 29:28 their own matches obviously, too. Like, but they they watch it back and everything, but they like to watch other 29:33 people perform. Mhm. Especially if they're veterans, if they're if they're if they're people who 29:38 have been doing this for a very long time that you could of course you want you could learn somebody from so that you can learn, but you got to be 29:44 in the in in the crowd. You got to be feel it. see see it from the perspective of the spect of the spectator. 29:50 I could see that that right and the thing is we live in a world where you don't have to pick one or the other. 29:56 You can be both and that's perfectly fine. You know why? Because that makes us 30:01 better at our job of entertaining. Hell yes. 30:07 So badly because see you should watch it. I'm going to I'm going to watch it. No, 30:14 I want to know what you what's your opinion. I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to watch it, but I'm going to expect you to watch it, too. If if I could if I could like like live 30:22 stream if I could like get this thing working, I would have put some Casal Focus like that. You could watch it. 30:28 I'm I'm just saying I'm going to watch it, but I expect you to watch it, too. 30:34 Matter of fact, next time you come back here, we're going to react to it. Fine. I'm figure this thing out. 30:39 But I'm just saying, you got to watch it. 30:51 I just think it's very interesting because I think media is going into like live streaming, bro. And no, we're 30:57 there. We are there. We've been there. We've been there. And the people that 31:04 are destroying it right now are right now in Dominican Republic is that dude 31:09 like I I don't know who else is doing it to that level. 31:15 It sounds like we got to watch it. Do you watch live streamers? Do you 31:20 watch streamers at all? Actually, I I don't I don't. But I don't see it more like as live streaming. See 31:26 more akin to um like reality TV. Back in the day, I 31:32 used to watch this show. You know, one of the earliest shows that I watched was called Laademia. 31:37 Did you ever hear about Laacademia? No. So it was on TV and essentially was 31:42 American Idol, but it also had this thing where they all lived in the same house. 31:48 So you got to see them live their lives. So throughout the week they would recap 31:54 on from from Monday to Friday if I if I recall. 31:59 Um they recap what happened that day at the end of the night. So at night they would you they'd show you academia, you 32:06 know, and they be like they'll be rehearsing, they'd be doing stuff antics around the house and they're being it's 32:12 like big brother. They're just kind of being followed, you know, with the cameras. And then on Sunday night, they 32:17 have the concert and then at the concert somebody gets eliminated. 32:23 Whoever, you know, Mexico votes has whoever has the least votes gets eliminated. Mhm. 32:29 So that was my first introduction to that type of content. So the more that you keep explaining this, it sounds it's 32:36 more like in in the kin of that like more about uh you're just watching 32:42 people do things. I got a question for you. Why you think human beings love watching these things 32:47 or entertaining? Because it's a distraction. It's not our lives. It's somebody else's lives. Yes, absolutely. I think it's more of a 32:53 distraction or like us human beings are just so addicted to stories or we love cheese. 32:59 There's nothing better than cheese. Cheese saves lives. I'm telling you. And this it this scratches that itch. Things 33:07 like this, things like Love Island, things like like it's it's a it's a type of distraction. it at the end of the day 33:13 that's what I I firmly believe that you know when things are rough out in the world and our own lives aren't that 33:19 great we tend to look for distractions for us you know it could be it could be 33:25 reality TV it could be streamers right it could be it could be Tik Tok it could be you know Instagram um but you know 33:32 there's there's entertainment there's the movies before any of this there was the movies there was TV there was you 33:38 know uh yeah watch stories like I And human beings are crazy about stories. Tell me 33:44 the beginning, middle, and end. Take me in through a journey. 33:50 I think cuz before TV, what was it? We used to 33:55 sit by a campfire, tell stories, and tell stories. Yeah, that was the thing to do. 34:00 That was the thing to do. And now there's many different campfires. Yeah, they're live streaming campfires now. Campfire. This is the campfire. 34:06 The campfire is requires Wi-Fi now. 34:13 Wow, that's interesting. Yeah, but at the end of the day, I I truly believe it's that it's distraction. We want distractions. 34:20 And you were talking about wrestling earlier and I know that you saw the whole thing with Rampage. Rampage Sun. 34:26 Rampage Son. Yeah. What do you think about that since you're like such a a wrestling fan? What 34:32 I have an understanding the dude I guess crushed the can on the guy's head, right? 34:39 So, it feels all right. Let's get this straight. We don't want to 34:46 um because I feel like we, you know, we we 34:52 start talking about this and we're like we don't have our details straight. So, this is according to uh so set so uh 35:02 to different sources here. Uh okay. Okay, so early this week at Knox Pro Wrestling event in Los Angeles 35:09 streamed live via kick. So again, this is live streaming. Raja Jackson, the 25-year-old son of 35:15 former UFC champion Quinton Rampage Jackson, shocked fans by violently assaulting professional wrestler Psycho 35:23 Stew. Did you see the video? I did see the video. It was wild. 35:28 Yeah. So early. So what had happened earlier was they um Psycho Stew 35:34 crashed a can an empty can over over Raja's head. Yeah. I think there was some sort of 35:40 miscommunication because Psycho thought that he was working Raja. And Raja didn't know it was a 35:46 work. A work means like it's fake. It's planned out. It's like part of a storyline. Gotcha. Um 35:51 so he probably thought he Raja was a wrestler. Yeah. But no, Raja is not a wrestler. Raja is an MMA dude. He's the son of an 35:57 MMA fighter, right? Yeah. 36:02 No. No. But the thing is there was an apology. 36:08 Uhhuh. There was an apology as a man. Yeah. Hey, my bad. Sorry. Like we thought this was a work and all this 36:14 stuff, right? And he accepted the apology. Accepted the apology. And so then later that night at the event 36:21 uh from different sources have said this allegedly uh Raja was told you can have your 36:28 receipt. So in wrestling whenever uh in in the most in the simplest terms a 36:36 receipt is uh a wrestler punches you by accident but hits too hard you now have 36:42 to give a receipt which means all right you punched me hard now I got to punch you hard back. Yeah, 36:47 simple as that. That's what a receipt is. So, you know, during the event, Psycho 36:53 Stew is in the ring. Roger gets tapped in the shoulder. Go in there. 36:59 Get your receipt. He goes in there, picks up Psycho Stew and slams him 37:05 to the mat. Slams him. Not in the professional wrestling style. 37:11 He slammed him so hard that you could see the dude's head bounce from the get-go. He saw 37:16 he went. This dude is out. He's out unconscious. 37:22 Raj, he gets on top of him and then starts hammering him. I saw that 20 times. You know what? What 37:29 traced me out? The referee was standing there, bro. Because the referee, I think, was still in like Look, I I think it's 37:37 irresponsible all around. Uhhuh. But I also think from a human aspect, you're like, "This is supposed to be a show." 37:42 Uhhuh. And in your mind, you're like, the referee's like, it's not a real fight. That's the thing about it. The 37:48 referees are there, but it's not they're not they're not actually like seeing this as a real fight. They're seeing 37:54 this as a performance, which is what it is. It's a performance. It's a play. 37:59 But my play, if you see, the dude is like really throwing these hay makers 38:05 like he's really going in there. And I'm thinking that he assumes, oh, those are those look like real punches. 38:10 Oh my. stupid. See, see, and look, we have we have the hindsight of TW, you know, the you know, 38:17 we have hindsight. We have the True. So, it's easy for us to be like, "Oh, I should I would have done this. I would 38:23 have done that." But at the at the moment, everybody was just kind of shocked by how like this is an attempted murder. 38:28 Yeah. Right. So, you know, that's what that's what happened. 38:36 The first two 38:51 referee. The referee's there. 38:57 A referee in wrestling is not actually a referee. Then what the fuck is he doing there? He's there to just keep the match moving 39:03 forward. And he thought the match was still going. Again, I'm I'm giving I'm giving grace 39:10 to to the referee, but and we're calling him referee for the sake of this for for 39:18 us talking that he's a referee, but he's not really a referee. Then what the fuck is he doing there? 39:23 He's a he's just a character like everybody else. He's part of the play. So, he's a fake referee. It's pro wrestling. Yes, he's a fake 39:31 referee. But like, let's say let's say we're talking about two men. All right, we're talking about two men. you. Sometimes 39:37 men, we lose our cool. Yeah. And especially when it comes to something physical as fighting. 39:43 Don't you think that a referee has to have that in the back of their mind or if I'm playing a referee, shit might get 39:49 out of hand and I'm need to know what to do when shit gets there. There's good there's good referee in 39:57 quotes. Referee is all in quotes right now. There are good referees. There are bad referees. 40:02 I think that's a cop out, bro. So, I think it was a I think it was a bad referee. like he didn't know how to react. 40:09 If there was a professional trained referee in there, he probably would have would have been like, "No, no, no, no, no better. 40:17 This looks too real. See, 40:26 boom. See, no, I agree with it. I agree. I I I 40:32 agree with how you're putting it. Yeah. I think 40:38 I think uh but again, it's it kind of just shocked everybody. Everybody was Yeah. So, at the end of the day, that's 40:45 that's what it Look, everyone was shocked. Nobody ever expects some like your guest 40:50 Mhm. you know, cuz he's Rampage's son, too. Yeah. The guest to run in and start committing, you know, 40:56 attempts murder, attempted murder. Like, you're not you don't expect that either, right? Right. So that's why the wrestlers had to jump in and like break 41:02 him break it up. And you're just like this is dumb. 41:10 No. 41:16 Well, you come get your son. Come get your son, my guy. He So, you know what broke my heart? 41:24 That the dude is a Naval I'm a veteran. I don't know if he's a Naval veteran, but he's a veteran. He's a veteran. Yeah, 41:30 right. That breaks my heart even more because I know what veterans go through, 41:36 you know, to assimilate back into society. He's doing something with his life, which is that wrestling, bro. 41:42 You see what I'm saying? And and I don't know, you were telling me that supposedly he 41:49 came out of the hospital or some shit. He just came out of the hospital. He put out a post, you know. He I mean he he uh 41:57 it was scary for a while cuz that dude was not responding at least allegedly according to some of the the the sources 42:04 that were there like that dude was not responding. He they in in the stream 42:09 itself in Raj's stream you can hear the when he's on the phone with uh one of the organizers he's like he flatlined. 42:16 So like dude like was he almost died. He almost Yeah. He 42:22 he basically died. dude's bleeding out of the ears like yo bleeding out of the ears like it's it's it was nasty. It was 42:28 attempted murder is what it was but fortunat like he he he came out he 42:34 put out a post being like he's thankful for the supporters and everything. So at 42:39 least he you know it's not murder for now. But it was so what did the post say like 42:47 you I'm okay. Yeah. essentially 42:53 he put out a post being like this is uh yeah I mean just letting everybody know that he's okay. 42:59 Um 43:04 yeah 2 has been released from the hospital and is now home resting. He sustained a serious head injury and was 43:10 unconscious upon arrival at the ER. His injuries include trauma to both the upper and lower jaws, a laceration to 43:17 his upper lip, a fracture to the maxilla bone, which unfortunately resulted in 43:22 the loss of several teeth. He has a long road of recovery ahead, 43:28 but he remains in good spirits despite everything he has been through. We are deeply we are deeply grateful for all 43:34 the love and support we've received during this time. Thank you to everyone who has contributed in any way, whether 43:39 it's through monetary donations, food, flowers, or gifts. Your kindness means more than words can express. 43:45 A so, you know, he's he came out alive, 43:52 but at the end of the day, I mean, it's, you know, I think we we've seen this 43:58 type of, you know, behavior. Ain't nobody wants to look weak. 44:04 Yeah. It's a eagle thing more than Of course it's an eagle thing. Yeah. 44:09 How old is Roger? 44:14 He's young. Let's see. 44:26 Dang. I remember being stupid but damn not that stupid. I always had 44:32 Roger Jackson is 25 years old. Yo, man, he's a grown man already. 25 44:37 years old. To act like that at 25 years old, that's why that's anger issues right there. 44:44 That this man needs therapy. 25 years. I understand he was 18 doing 44:49 that, you know, cuz you're 18, you're stupid. 17, you're pretty much stupid. 44:54 Yeah. You know, I remember when I was 15, somebody walk close to one of my friends. I'm like, "Yo, let's jump 44:59 them." Right? But when you hit 25 years old, bro, like that's you a grown man, 45:05 bro. And you think like that, I would not I didn't have that type. Maybe it's because it's just me, but I grew up here 45:12 in Harlem. Mhm. To beat a guy that bad. No, I would never dare to do that. I would never 45:19 dare to do that. Especially at 20. I think we we got to stop infant we we we 45:25 live in an age that we infantilizing mental damn much. I agree. 45:31 And I think that that's why people, oh, he's a kid. He's young. No, he a grown man tent of murder. He's old 45:38 enough to understand this. Nowadays, people paying child support till you're 21 years old. 45:43 Oh, yes. Aa and then people expect me to get married 45:49 and have kids. No. So I have a grown ass nigga. I'm paying child support. By the time he grows up, I'm going have to be 45:55 paying child support till he's 30. I think what was agre what was egregious about it, I think, is also the fact that 46:01 Raja like look all right. Uh we're going to be we're 46:07 going to be in the end of thoughts for a second. All right. Okay. All right. If you got a beef with somebody 46:12 Yeah. How do you settle it? You fight. Okay. You fight. 46:19 Yeah. Yeah. Um, you go oneon-one. Yeah. Whoever wins at the end of the day, you 46:25 shake hands. Yeah. And that's it. Okay. Here in this instance, 46:32 Raja went into the ring. Psycho Stew thought that it was all a work. 46:39 Again, he thought it was, hey, it's part of the show. 46:46 He allowed himself to be slammed. Yeah. Yeah, because he thought it was part of the show. He's Yeah. 46:51 And Raja took advantage of that of that of the fact that this man wasn't going to defend himself because in the show 46:58 he's he's not supposed to. He's not supposed to. He's supposed to. All right, I'll take the slam cuz you can see you can tell 47:04 like Roger picks him up and and Psycho Stew is much bigger than him, but he like allows himself to be picked up 47:11 picked up because it's all part of the show. So, I think that's even worse than what 47:18 happened. It's one thing if you if you challenge somebody, let's let's fight. And yeah, 47:24 you know, was the worst part about the rest of the what's his name? Psycho Steu. Worst part of Psycho 2, that nigga was 47:30 mistaken twice. 47:38 Yeah. It's bad communication all around is what it was. said people was like, he's 47:44 like, "Bro, this bro, come on." Somebody should have said some to somebody. Like, okay, this is when it's 47:50 when it's for real. This is when it's when it's real. When it's real. This is when it's real. This is when it's not. Like, somebody say some. Get 47:56 some organiz get some booking done. Like, let's let's be real here. This is why WWE has producers. Yeah. This is why 48:03 AW has producers. They have people overseeing every single match so that dumb stuff does like this 48:09 doesn't happen. So, it's one of those things that's just like, you know, just a lot look just a 48:15 lot of stupidity, a lot of immature people all around. Yeah. Because I think 48:21 and then a kid who's I mean a 25year-old dude who he's not a kid. He's not he's a 48:26 man. He's a grown man who can't keep his ego in check. Yes. Like that's just that's just the 48:32 reality. Who's got clear anger issues. Clear anger issues. Because I never my never in my mind when I think, you know 48:37 what, this this dude has slighted me. Let me let me beat him half to death. 48:42 Bro, I I ain't going to lie, but there there were times, you know, as a man sometimes like like when somebody fucks 48:49 with you like you could be cool at the moment and you ever got home and you're like three 48:54 days later you're thinking about this shit, you're like me and you're like just analyzing the thing like I should 49:00 have I should have beat his ass. And it comes out in other places, right? Like you know, taking a shower and you 49:06 arguing with some nigga that's not even there. Mhm. That happened to you? No. I do that all the time. Oh, you ever you 49:11 never argue with some nigga on the mirror? Well, you know what? No. I have um 49:16 thought up of fake arguments in the shower. It's like, all right. 49:25 Well, you think about a lot. You think a lot about a lot. It's the It's the It's the heat coming from the water. I don't 49:30 know. There's a science to it. But but I have done that. But I've never thought, "All right, this is I'm going to 49:36 I don't know. I've never thought about taking it more than that. It's all intellectual conversations." 49:42 The real talk though, like there's there's been times where I'm like, "Yo, I got into somebody tried to play me, 49:47 right?" And then afterwards, your mu like that shit that starts playing in 49:53 your head, you're like, "You know what? Let me punch this dude right now." 50:00 You see what I'm saying? I see what you're saying. There were times I'm like like like a week later, sometimes a year later. You 50:07 ever had like some shit happen with somebody and then a year later it just pops in your head. You're like, "Man, I should have punched him." 50:12 I don't have the reaction of I should have punched them, but I know there have been moments that I think about like a 50:18 decade later. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're like, "Oh, fuck." It's like one of those 3:00 a.m. thoughts. 50:28 Damn. Yeah. When you about to go to sleep, you can't go to sleep. You're like, "Man, I should have punched that motherfucker." 50:35 See, again, I don't get the punch. I got I can't believe I punched that motherfucker. I I would probably be more 50:41 like that was a stupid moment. Yeah. Yeah. Cring like a cringy moment. A cringy. Oh, yeah. Cringy, man. Like, 50:48 oh. Uh. So those do come back, but I never thought the solution was should have 50:53 punched. Fuck that dude. No, because I also know like violence is is 51:00 [Music] 51:07 what I'm saying. Am I? But there's some days I'm like, 51:15 man, I wish they would like I could catch them and no cameras around. 51:21 You ever you ever like argue with somebody, you got face to face, right? And you're like and then you're like, 51:27 okay, I'm gonna At the moment you're like, "This is a bad idea. We shouldn't fight. I'm not going to do this. I am 51:33 better than this." And you're talking to yourself. You're like, "I am so much better than this. I'm a grown man. I am very mature. 51:40 and you walk away, you're like, "I'm glad I walked away." And the next day, you're like, "Why the fuck did I walk 51:48 away?" You walked away because it's the thing 51:54 you're supposed to do. You're supposed to do, but there's like there's this other you know how they have the angel and the devil and the 51:59 devil goes like Diablo. Do you remember um 52:06 back in the day we had a we had an argument? Okay. Um, 52:12 uh, we had a we had an argument about a specific moment. I'm looking it up right now. 52:18 Eduardo Yanes, do you remember him? Eduardo. Yeah. 52:24 He's a He's an actor. No. He slapped a reporter in an interview. 52:29 Oh, yes. Yeah. So, you were on the on the side of 52:35 the Eduardo Yanz. Yeah. Like Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's Borgel, you know, he slapped him. 52:40 He slapped him. Slapped the reporter. Uhhuh. Because the reporter asked him some fucked up questions. Yes. And you thought, "All right, that's 52:46 warranted." Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. He deserved it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I was just like, "No, 52:52 no. Don't Why are you slapping people? We were on two different sides here." Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 52:58 But again, I still stick with my I still stand by that. It was Don't slap. 53:03 Okay. Okay. The reporter was being a bitch. Yeah. Yeah, it was. 53:08 It was like his son got in a car accident and then I guess his son went online and 53:14 started asking for money or some had something to do with like fam like some family issues. Family issues which again messed up thing to ask about 53:21 like don't don't ask about that. The dude is on the red carpet and the reporter came up to him and was like 53:28 what do you say about a man that has a kid asking for money online or something 53:34 like that? And then he was I forgot the rest, but I 53:40 know he slapped him. He slapped him. Yeah. I like But that's a That was a fucking You know what it is? It was wrong. It 53:46 was wrong. You were right. You're right that it was wrong that he did it. 53:52 But it felt good to see it. It felt good to see it. I I'll give you that. 53:59 Still wouldn't have done it. Well, let me then let me ask you another example. 54:04 I wouldn't have done it. I wouldn't have done it. I wouldn't have done it. I would have I would have been mad that I 54:10 didn't do it. I would have been like I would I would have I would have taken the high road 54:16 right then and there. But I know damn well three days later I would have been like I should have slapped that nigga. 54:24 Yeah. He's just going to have to let it do that. I mean I'm like you know just don't don't hit anybody. 54:29 Yeah. Yeah. I know it's I know I know the the the the phrase is talk shit get hit. I 54:34 get that. I get that we we've lived with that. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm also like, you know what? It's not it's not worth it. Let me let me ask 54:42 you something. Okay. Even to even and to further Yeah. 54:47 talk about this. Do you think Will Smith was right? 54:53 No. In slapping Chris Rock. Definitely not. Definitely not. It was not warranted. It 54:59 was stupid. It was just I think I think it was more Will Smith's ego. Mhm. 55:05 What What do you think? I think um No, don't Why are you 55:11 embarrassing yourself like that? Don't go up there and slap Chris Rock. That is half your size. The joke was not 55:16 even that bad of a joke. He He just called her GI Jane. Yeah, I remember when all that stuff 55:23 went down. Everybody thought it was a joke. Here's the thing. Everybody Yeah. 55:28 Everybody thought it was a after it all subsided. Everybody was kind of like, "Well, Smith shouldn't have done that." 55:35 Okay. Then they started seeing the tide turn a little bit. Then everybody was like, "Oh, well, he made fun of Jada 55:42 Pinket Smith, so therefore it's okay. It's warranted." Yeah. Yeah. And there were people that are very like 55:48 progressive people that were like Chris Rock deserved it. And I'm just like a lot of people. There were a lot of people. And I was 55:54 like, a lot of people I don't I don't think so. That's true. I don't I don't think I don't again amipas like at the end of 56:01 the day you could talk shit all you want but he could pull him off to the side afterwards be like yo my you my guy but 56:07 like don't be talking about my wife like that and I get it if you my boy like don't talk about my wife okay cool you 56:13 see what I'm saying yeah why you got to do it so publicly in front of what did Chris Rock say in front of the white people 56:20 but for him to be like I'mma walk on stage and slap you bro he was laughing 56:26 at first and he saw J to pick a Smith. She rolled her eyes and he was like, "Oh no, you're more now. I got to show I got 56:32 to show up." Like, "You ain't slap her." When she was saying that she had an entanglement 56:38 in August, August, whatever that motherfucker's name, that she had an affair with 56:45 all over the world to slap somebody at that caliber, bro. And you know what was the worst part about it? They still gave 56:52 him the Oscar. You know what? We don't play that 56:57 violence. We don't resort to violence. And he was like, "Get your wife's name out your mouth." 57:04 That's what I know was real when he was like, he sat down. He was like, "Get your wife my wife name out your mouth." 57:11 It's not a joke. Yeah. It got awkward after that. It got awkward. Everybody Everybody And 57:19 he got a standing ovation that same night. Yeah. He He got his award. He got his 57:25 award and people there. Oh my god. No. Yeah. But ain't nobody reme here's the thing. Nobody remembers what he won for. 57:32 It was King Richard. But you know, he got overshadowed by a slap. Yeah. 57:38 No. And on top of that, do you know was the worst part about it? Uh somebody 57:43 somebody won best documentary at that time. Who was it? It was uh it's from the roots. No. 57:49 The roots. Yeah. And you just messed up that guy's moment. Yeah. Messed up that his moment. 57:58 Messed up his moment for what? Cuz of a joke. 58:03 Here's the thing, right? People are going to do what they're going to do, right? Even if you wanted to slap Chris Rock, 58:09 fine. Take him aside. Do it in private. Mhm. Do do whatever you got to do. But again, 58:15 things that you don't do. You don't you don't beat somebody have to have you 58:21 know somebody close to you know you you don't commit uh assault 58:27 you don't commit attempted murder you don't commit sedent murder right yeah I think the lesson what we have 58:33 today is stay safe one two check your 58:38 emotions if you feel like you're going to hit somebody don't do it don't do it think about it it's better to take the 58:45 high road it's better it's Better to not commit violence and just walk away. 58:50 Think about it. Hit the gym to let it out. You see what I'm saying? And stay away from steroids. 59:01 Yeah. Anything else you want to let people know? Okay. Uh yeah, don't don't hit people. 59:11 It's not worth it. Be Stay mad that you didn't hit them. Yeah, stay mad. It's 59:16 better. It's better to regret. Also, don't risk your life. Don't risk imprisonment. Don't risk somebody else's 59:23 life. I know somebody that punched somebody by accident. Not by accident, but like and they hit a moment something 59:29 happened, punched him, the man fell, lost his life, hit the back of his head, and now 59:34 you're doing time for murder of somebody that something that could have been prevented. You see what I'm saying? 59:40 Yeah. So, anything could happen. It's better off to just avoid it and live your life and focus on you and your goals. If you 59:46 focus on you and your goals, that's man, that's more important than anything else. Don't let stupidity get in the 59:52 way. And then for the young cats, there's a lot of young cats that's probably listening to me. You know, I 59:58 grew up in this neighborhood. You see what I'm saying? I know what it is. I remember I remember the fights. I 1:00:04 remember I will fight people for any fucking reason. And you and you grew up in a world thinking that this is normal 1:00:12 in our world. It is normal, right? And those are stories sometimes. 1:00:18 You're like, "Yo, this happened. I fought this. I fought drug dealers before around here." And at that moment, 1:00:24 you're like, "Yeah, I did that." Whatever. You have a fight story or war story. But at the end of the day, man, it's not 1:00:31 even worth it, bro. And if you could avoid a fight, it's better off avoiding it. If you tried everything else to 1:00:37 avoid a fight and it you know and and you couldn't then yes defend yourself. 1:00:44 Defend yourself. Learn how to fight. You see what I'm saying? There were times that like you know I've seen so many 1:00:51 things happening out here but like check that ego. I feel like the young cats I remember being 18, 15, 14 years old, 1:00:58 right? I know what that feeling is. I know what that rage is. I know how 1:01:04 sometimes you feel invincible, like you feel like, yo, nothing can stop 1:01:09 me, nothing can hurt me. And sometimes you want to be the baddest dude alive, but in reality, that's not where your 1:01:15 energy should go. You should be rebuilding, hanging out with your friends, have fun with your friends. If 1:01:21 you're out and you drinking with your friends and something happens, I lost a guy. I saw I lost a friend, Scrappy, 1:01:28 right? the short Dominic handsome dude, bro. They call him scrappy because he 1:01:34 has like a scrappy voice and stuff like that. Like I got it now. And he was he used to box. Great fucking boxer. And he 1:01:42 went out to the club and I remember like Scrappy was a type of dude like he bump into anybody and he would be like, "Yo, 1:01:47 pop off. Pop off. Let's do it. Let's fight." That was his that was his energy, right? 1:01:55 And I had a little bit of that energy, but not like scrappy. And then he went out to the club. He got into it with 1:02:01 somebody. And then when they left the club, they went looking for him. They ganged up on him. There was two dudes 1:02:08 against him. Matter of fact, he was hanging out with some dudes and the other dudes that he was with left him. So sometimes you don't even know who's 1:02:14 on your side. Sometimes you think that the boys that you with are the ones that going to defend you. 1:02:22 And they they left him. They ran away. They beat Scrappy up so freaking bad that left him unconscious. He was 1:02:28 Scrappy was in a coma. In a coma. He died at a young age at 19 1:02:34 years old said 1:02:41 and all of it is avoidable. It was all avoidable. And I know how he is. He probably would 1:02:48 have walked away didn't say shame. He probably would have been alive today. 1:02:54 Mhm. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. So, 1:02:59 yeah, I know this went really dark. It was supposed to be just comedy. No, it's a it's an important life 1:03:05 lesson. Yeah. But I feel like like if I could teach something to the youth, I'll do it. Do it. 1:03:10 Mhm. I think that's important. That's what we should get out of this. Noto, thank you for coming, my brother. You're you're fucking loved. You know, I 1:03:17 love doing this. I get to hang out with you. I have a great time. And hopefully everybody had a good time, too. Leave in the comments. Tell us what you think, 1:03:24 you know. Join the conversation. I read the comments, you know. I mean, once I post it, I read it right away.